<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post2068196978147681991..comments</id><updated>2010-01-30T13:54:09.743-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Illusion Sciences: why are we surprised by only some of the things that we see?: Four Bars: wiggle wiggle</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/feeds/2068196978147681991/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html'/><author><name>Arthur Shapiro</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-280774473148323195</id><published>2008-10-03T09:18:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-10-03T09:18:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>This raised several questions for me and I would r...</title><content type='html'>This raised several questions for me and I would really like to know what you think:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I didn't see the bars wiggling until I read the blurb below telling me about it, but then it was really hard to dispel the illusion. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(And once I perceived the bars wiggling, I was taken in by the other illusions, don't know if this would've happened without the first illusion taking hold).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So I'd love to know, have you experienced other people not 'seeing' the illusion?  If so, I wonder if those people have any other traits in common?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I'm particularly interested because my take on it is, as a trained visual artist, I'm in the business of seeing, and to draw illusionistically (or create an illusion by other means), I have to see without illusion. I wonder if all people with a strong drawing training would have a similar experience.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I noticed at art college that although I was with extremely bright people, most of them were dyslexic to some degree. And since my training I respond to written language differently too.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I'd really love to know if there's any been work done on the effects of training on (especially visual) perception. Maybe you would kindly post an answer to the board, or some links relevant to these questions?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And thanks for this fascinating site!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/280774473148323195'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/280774473148323195'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html?showComment=1223039880000#c280774473148323195' title=''/><author><name>Barbara</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06212222403495428775</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-2068196978147681991' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/posts/default/2068196978147681991' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-4627715854538468859</id><published>2008-09-26T04:50:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-09-26T04:50:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>great post. It is an interesting illusion.</title><content type='html'>great post. It is an interesting illusion.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/4627715854538468859'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/4627715854538468859'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html?showComment=1222419000000#c4627715854538468859' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-2068196978147681991' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/posts/default/2068196978147681991' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-3977199729912028769</id><published>2008-09-23T20:38:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-09-23T20:38:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Kip, I dont think the bars need to change size as ...</title><content type='html'>Kip, I dont think the bars need to change size as they spin. This should be evident by looking at the illussion where the background is stationary.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/3977199729912028769'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/3977199729912028769'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html?showComment=1222216680000#c3977199729912028769' title=''/><author><name>opiated</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15171758122253242641</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-2068196978147681991' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/posts/default/2068196978147681991' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-1568223001355015767</id><published>2008-09-05T14:10:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-09-05T14:10:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>I notice that the spinning bars in the background ...</title><content type='html'>I notice that the spinning bars in the background change size--they are widest when they are horizontal.  Is this necessary for the illusion to work?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/1568223001355015767'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/1568223001355015767'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html?showComment=1220638200000#c1568223001355015767' title=''/><author><name>kip</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-2068196978147681991' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/posts/default/2068196978147681991' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-497550791408629412</id><published>2008-09-04T15:39:00.000-04:00</published><updated>2008-09-04T15:39:00.000-04:00</updated><title type='text'>No need to apologize. I'm glad you're posting agai...</title><content type='html'>No need to apologize. I'm glad you're posting again! This was interesting and informative, as usual.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/497550791408629412'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/2068196978147681991/comments/default/497550791408629412'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html?showComment=1220557140000#c497550791408629412' title=''/><author><name>Will</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09254417948332004153</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.illusionsciences.com/2008/09/four-bars-wiggle-wiggle.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8606757687386980260.post-2068196978147681991' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8606757687386980260/posts/default/2068196978147681991' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>